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		<title>By: Derek Miller</title>
		<link>http://srobbin.com/blog/goodbye-att-im-out/#comment-705</link>
		<dc:creator>Derek Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 00:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know this is now an old thread (great post, btw), but I just called AT&amp;T in attempt to resolve some service issues. AT&amp;T customer care specialist Austin assured me that could he could not check for dropped calls. He also said that Chicago -- and my area specifically -- gets the best service available. 

I&#039;m not the type of dude to lose his temper over, well, pretty much anything. However, I almost felt like he was goading me. It was bizarre. 

And my first call to AT&amp;T was dropped midway through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know this is now an old thread (great post, btw), but I just called AT&amp;T in attempt to resolve some service issues. AT&amp;T customer care specialist Austin assured me that could he could not check for dropped calls. He also said that Chicago &#8212; and my area specifically &#8212; gets the best service available. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not the type of dude to lose his temper over, well, pretty much anything. However, I almost felt like he was goading me. It was bizarre. </p>
<p>And my first call to AT&amp;T was dropped midway through.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Robbin</title>
		<link>http://srobbin.com/blog/goodbye-att-im-out/#comment-699</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Robbin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 14:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kate: Yes, that&#039;s a very good reason to contact AT&amp;T.

Stacy: Wow. Adding Google Voice as a fave? Brilliant!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kate: Yes, that&#8217;s a very good reason to contact AT&#038;T.</p>
<p>Stacy: Wow. Adding Google Voice as a fave? Brilliant!</p>
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		<title>By: Stacy</title>
		<link>http://srobbin.com/blog/goodbye-att-im-out/#comment-693</link>
		<dc:creator>Stacy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 20:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t it amazing?  I did this too, and I can&#039;t believe how much better my service is.  I don&#039;t even miss 3G (or visual voicemail, for that matter). For the most part I find that Edge is fine for checking email, getting directions/maps, and looking stuff up quickly. I&#039;m usually around some wi-fi anyway, so it&#039;s not a big deal. 

My phone bill is SO much lower now too, mainly because of the my faves plan plus Google Voice.  I use GV as one of my faves &amp; then give everyone the GV number instead of my cell number.  I&#039;ll never be tied to a provider again!  I have (tried to) use my iPhone here in Atlanta and in SF when I lived there, and service really stunk both places.
Kate, I had the same problem here in Atlanta (plus dropped calls or calls sounding like I was underwater, too).  There were many places where I had absolutely NO service.. places in high density city areas, even... I live 20 min from downtown ATL for crying out loud!

I saw a blog post that said Apple *expects at least* 30% dropped calls on average with AT&amp;T.  It is here: http://www.macnn.com/articles/09/09/30/sign.of.poor.att.coverage

Amazing. I can&#039;t believe that is acceptable to them!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t it amazing?  I did this too, and I can&#8217;t believe how much better my service is.  I don&#8217;t even miss 3G (or visual voicemail, for that matter). For the most part I find that Edge is fine for checking email, getting directions/maps, and looking stuff up quickly. I&#8217;m usually around some wi-fi anyway, so it&#8217;s not a big deal. </p>
<p>My phone bill is SO much lower now too, mainly because of the my faves plan plus Google Voice.  I use GV as one of my faves &amp; then give everyone the GV number instead of my cell number.  I&#8217;ll never be tied to a provider again!  I have (tried to) use my iPhone here in Atlanta and in SF when I lived there, and service really stunk both places.<br />
Kate, I had the same problem here in Atlanta (plus dropped calls or calls sounding like I was underwater, too).  There were many places where I had absolutely NO service.. places in high density city areas, even&#8230; I live 20 min from downtown ATL for crying out loud!</p>
<p>I saw a blog post that said Apple *expects at least* 30% dropped calls on average with AT&amp;T.  It is here: <a href="http://www.macnn.com/articles/09/09/30/sign.of.poor.att.coverage" rel="nofollow">http://www.macnn.com/articles/09/09/30/sign.of.poor.att.coverage</a></p>
<p>Amazing. I can&#8217;t believe that is acceptable to them!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
		<link>http://srobbin.com/blog/goodbye-att-im-out/#comment-692</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 19:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What if the problem is not that I get dropped, but that I have NO SERVICE (or SOS service) in areas where the coverage map on their website indicates I should have spectacular service? My calls aren&#039;t getting dropped, I just can&#039;t make any because my phone is telling me I have no service!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What if the problem is not that I get dropped, but that I have NO SERVICE (or SOS service) in areas where the coverage map on their website indicates I should have spectacular service? My calls aren&#8217;t getting dropped, I just can&#8217;t make any because my phone is telling me I have no service!</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Robbin</title>
		<link>http://srobbin.com/blog/goodbye-att-im-out/#comment-691</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Robbin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 18:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul: Excellent point. I&#039;ve updated the steps above.

Cocoa326: Yes, I &lt;em&gt;believe&lt;/em&gt; that someone would have to jail break an iPhone so that it could be used on AT&amp;T. ;)

Naz: Those meetings were exactly the reason this was escalated. You&#039;re a saint for tolerating so many of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul: Excellent point. I&#8217;ve updated the steps above.</p>
<p>Cocoa326: Yes, I <em>believe</em> that someone would have to jail break an iPhone so that it could be used on AT&#038;T. <img src='http://srobbin.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Naz: Those meetings were exactly the reason this was escalated. You&#8217;re a saint for tolerating so many of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris H</title>
		<link>http://srobbin.com/blog/goodbye-att-im-out/#comment-690</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just get a phone that works on Tmob&#039;s frequencies and you&#039;re in business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just get a phone that works on Tmob&#8217;s frequencies and you&#8217;re in business.</p>
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		<title>By: Naz</title>
		<link>http://srobbin.com/blog/goodbye-att-im-out/#comment-689</link>
		<dc:creator>Naz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was wondering if you had given up on the iPhone when you mentioned you were no longer with AT&amp;T. Considering how many meetings we&#039;ve had where you&#039;ve dropped off a conference call, I completely understand. 

I think this is fair and good on AT&amp;T for letting you switch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was wondering if you had given up on the iPhone when you mentioned you were no longer with AT&amp;T. Considering how many meetings we&#8217;ve had where you&#8217;ve dropped off a conference call, I completely understand. </p>
<p>I think this is fair and good on AT&amp;T for letting you switch.</p>
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		<title>By: Cocoa326</title>
		<link>http://srobbin.com/blog/goodbye-att-im-out/#comment-688</link>
		<dc:creator>Cocoa326</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you have to *jail break* your phone to use on t-mobile?</description>
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		<title>By: Paul Smith</title>
		<link>http://srobbin.com/blog/goodbye-att-im-out/#comment-687</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice work, Scott. My wife is a consummate customer-service-get-things-out-of-er, and she&#039;d be impressed :)

One thing for others who are contemplating following this advice to consider: if your main complaint with AT&amp;T is about poor service, you may get push-back on that, because that&#039;s so subjective, right, and what proof do you the lowly customer have? You&#039;re just trying to get out of your contract, you lousy sonofa. The thing to remember is their systems software knows each and every time your phone makes a network connection with a cell tower. And of course they know exactly when your calls began and ended. Therefore they know -- or could easily figure out, if they correlated these two pieces of data -- exactly how many dropped calls you&#039;ve had! It&#039;s unlikely they make the network handshakes data available to their CSRs, but you could use awareness of this info to push back with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice work, Scott. My wife is a consummate customer-service-get-things-out-of-er, and she&#8217;d be impressed <img src='http://srobbin.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>One thing for others who are contemplating following this advice to consider: if your main complaint with AT&amp;T is about poor service, you may get push-back on that, because that&#8217;s so subjective, right, and what proof do you the lowly customer have? You&#8217;re just trying to get out of your contract, you lousy sonofa. The thing to remember is their systems software knows each and every time your phone makes a network connection with a cell tower. And of course they know exactly when your calls began and ended. Therefore they know &#8212; or could easily figure out, if they correlated these two pieces of data &#8212; exactly how many dropped calls you&#8217;ve had! It&#8217;s unlikely they make the network handshakes data available to their CSRs, but you could use awareness of this info to push back with.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Robbin</title>
		<link>http://srobbin.com/blog/goodbye-att-im-out/#comment-686</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Robbin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, that&#039;s the part I forgot to mention. No, visual voicemail doesn&#039;t work; neither does 3G (T-mobile is on a different 3G frequency than AT&amp;T).

It&#039;s sad to see those features go, but they&#039;re made up for by the fact that I can consistently place/receive calls; I&#039;m saving ~$40 a month on a comparable minutes/data plan; and I have no contract with T-mobile, it&#039;s month-to-month. Plus, AT&amp;T&#039;s 3G was rarely available, so it doesn&#039;t really feel like I&#039;m losing the speed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, that&#8217;s the part I forgot to mention. No, visual voicemail doesn&#8217;t work; neither does 3G (T-mobile is on a different 3G frequency than AT&#038;T).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s sad to see those features go, but they&#8217;re made up for by the fact that I can consistently place/receive calls; I&#8217;m saving ~$40 a month on a comparable minutes/data plan; and I have no contract with T-mobile, it&#8217;s month-to-month. Plus, AT&#038;T&#8217;s 3G was rarely available, so it doesn&#8217;t really feel like I&#8217;m losing the speed.</p>
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